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I saw this on FB & couldn't agree more.

I saw this on FB & couldn't agree more.
even though Canada's numbers are rising, it is rising from a lower number than the US. the rising case numbers in Canada wouldn't even raise an eyebrow in the US.We just had Thanksgiving here in Canada.
Our rules were only have Thanksgiving with your household period. So basically it was a nicer supper with turkey. Talked to family on devices.
People didn’t follow those simple rules and now our numbers have gone way up again 2 weeks later. It’s crazy. Now people want to do Halloween this weekend . Can’t see this turning out well either.
I looked up the numbers, California it is 24,700 per million. Los Angeles County is 30,800 per million.I live in So Cal. People will not follow these guidelines. People have been having large parties in my neighborhood throughout the pandemic.
Will you be wearing masks at Thanksgiving like most grocery stores require? If you think someone can’t spread covid to you just because they are family, I have news for youOur immediate family consists of 22 people. We are not distanced from one another and several of each household are tested on a regular basis. We have had family gatherings for MONTHS! Thanksgiving IS on! I feel safer in my own home than the grocery store.
Here’s part of the reason for the Covid fatigue.This hits the nail on the head and it's why myself and others have been calling some adults 'children' and 'toddlers'. They want their ice cream but they aren't willing to put in the work to get it, they just want it now! Regardless of the repercussions.
I didn't say family members can't infect each other. It's not news either.Will you be wearing masks at Thanksgiving like most grocery stores require? If you think someone can’t spread covid to you just because they are family, I have news for youYour home is only safer if there’s no outsiders in it. In fact, much of the spread is starting at informal and formal family and friend get togethers and parties where people are unmasked and have a false sense of comfort.
Yes, Europe "did it right" but the virus didn't care.Here’s part of the reason for the Covid fatigue.
Many have been doing it right. They postpone large gatherings and parties to stop the spread. They look at other countries who are doing it right. And see them opening up to semi-normalcy (I know Europe has shut down again). Then they see a larger spread in the US. Because many won’t follow the rules.
Those who have been doing it right are now frustrated. And, knowing they won’t get back to normal anytime soon, they just give up.
If that's really how some people feel well wouldn't that be a self-fulfilling prophecy? I understand throwing up your hands and saying to the heck with it if people won't do it neither will I but at that point you lose the ability to truthfully criticize and complain about other people, you've decided to join them after all. You've made your bed you get to lie in it as well, glass houses and all that, etc.Here’s part of the reason for the Covid fatigue.
Many have been doing it right. They postpone large gatherings and parties to stop the spread. They look at other countries who are doing it right. And see them opening up to semi-normalcy (I know Europe has shut down again). Then they see a larger spread in the US. Because many won’t follow the rules.
Those who have been doing it right are now frustrated. And, knowing they won’t get back to normal anytime soon, they just give up.
Here’s part of the reason for the Covid fatigue.
Many have been doing it right. They postpone large gatherings and parties to stop the spread. They look at other countries who are doing it right. And see them opening up to semi-normalcy (I know Europe has shut down again). Then they see a larger spread in the US. Because many won’t follow the rules.
Those who have been doing it right are now frustrated. And, knowing they won’t get back to normal anytime soon, they just give up.
I agree and think some have become even more efficient over time. Guidelines vary too...state to state also by counties.I don’t think I know anyone that has been doing it right and then gave up. People I know that have been doing it right, still are. And those that weren’t following the guidelines still aren’t. But maybe that’s just me.
And even so, being is isolation is just torture. It isn't easy for anyone to give everything up especially at the holidays.Here’s part of the reason for the Covid fatigue.
Many have been doing it right. They postpone large gatherings and parties to stop the spread. They look at other countries who are doing it right. And see them opening up to semi-normalcy (I know Europe has shut down again). Then they see a larger spread in the US. Because many won’t follow the rules.
Those who have been doing it right are now frustrated. And, knowing they won’t get back to normal anytime soon, they just give up.
Exactly. Two of the family members we gather with on holidays live alone. If they stick to the idea of only celebrating with the people of their own household, they will spend the holidays the way they've spent most of this year - home alone. One is recently widowed. The other lost a child a couple years ago. Neither is in a good place, mentally, to be home alone on the holidays. And it is really easy for people who are imagining, and among my friend group often looking forward to, smaller holidays with just their spouse and children with no pressure to be anywhere or make the full rounds of a whole mess of extended relatives to say that giving up the holidays is no big deal or that it is only one year (which is, in all probability, not true). But for many people, it isn't easy at all and for some, seeing their kids and grandkids is worth the risk.And even so, being is isolation is just torture. It isn't easy for anyone to give everything up especially at the holidays.
Colleen, with my bad lung disease as many of you already know about, what I bolded is exactly where I got going in to June. My sons heard me say a million times since June if I die because I got to hug and kiss them or my grandchildren........so be it. Am I going to run around maskless and possibly infect strangers heck no!Exactly. Two of the family members we gather with on holidays live alone. If they stick to the idea of only celebrating with the people of their own household, they will spend the holidays the way they've spent most of this year - home alone. One is recently widowed. The other lost a child a couple years ago. Neither is in a good place, mentally, to be home alone on the holidays. And it is really easy for people who are imagining, and among my friend group often looking forward to, smaller holidays with just their spouse and children with no pressure to be anywhere or make the full rounds of a whole mess of extended relatives to say that giving up the holidays is no big deal or that it is only one year (which is, in all probability, not true). But for many people, it isn't easy at all and for some, seeing their kids and grandkids is worth the risk.
Yeah, I mean there’s a huge difference in one or two people joining a household for Thanksgiving vs. the big 25-30 person gatherings many people are planning to have. If precautions are taken in advance, including 1 or 2 extra guests is much different than hosting a very large multi family Thanksgiving with the possibility of infecting large numbers of people at once who then go out and on to infect others. Smaller risk vs. larger risk.Exactly. Two of the family members we gather with on holidays live alone. If they stick to the idea of only celebrating with the people of their own household, they will spend the holidays the way they've spent most of this year - home alone. One is recently widowed. The other lost a child a couple years ago. Neither is in a good place, mentally, to be home alone on the holidays. And it is really easy for people who are imagining, and among my friend group often looking forward to, smaller holidays with just their spouse and children with no pressure to be anywhere or make the full rounds of a whole mess of extended relatives to say that giving up the holidays is no big deal or that it is only one year (which is, in all probability, not true). But for many people, it isn't easy at all and for some, seeing their kids and grandkids is worth the risk.
ThisMy mother was going downhill mentally fast and looked alarmingly bad when I finally started visiting her outside at her house. After lots of visits this summer, she is doing much better. Friends of mine have lost family members due to mental health issues exacerbated by pandemic loneliness. We will be having Thanksgiving as safe as possible. There are worse things than Covid.
Serious mental illness can be as life threatening as COVID-19 can be.My mother was going downhill mentally fast and looked alarmingly bad when I finally started visiting her outside at her house. After lots of visits this summer, she is doing much better. Friends of mine have lost family members due to mental health issues exacerbated by pandemic loneliness. We will be having Thanksgiving as safe as possible. There are worse things than Covid.
That's what I have been saying all along. I UNDERSTAND that people want to be around others, want/need to get back to work and school, see family, etc. We don't HAVE to be locked down, under strict isolation; we know how to manage this. Wear a mask, keep your distance, limit crowd size. This will enable us to let people work and socialize as safely as possible. It's not forever, it's for another 6-12 months. Unfortunately we have to have everyone on board, and some people just refuse to follow the recommendations, so we all pay the price.It’s really stunning that people can’t take the responsibility on their own to wear masks and avoid large gatherings. It’s an incredible lack of respect and self control. If people could be trusted to approach covid with caution and respect for others, none of these restrictions would even need to be suggested.
Many are overestimating the life expectancy of their older relatives. There won’t be another Thanksgiving for some of them.Serious mental illness can be as life threatening as COVID-19 can be.
Yes it's not forever but that talk is also what happened at the beginning. "It's only for a few weeks, it's only been a few weeks, it's just a few more months, and so on" and it.never.was.going.to.be only a few weeks or months, it just wasn't.It's not forever, it's for another 6-12 months.